Issue #94 - March 24, 2000

OS: Lists, lists, lists
OS: Motorhead Popularity
OS: St Valentines Day Massacre.. and other things..
OS: Nightmare/The Dreamtime
OS: RE: You have been added to Overnight Sensation
OS: Re: 15-year-old girls buying Motorhead T-shirts?
OS: Hawkwind Version of Motorhead on CD
OS: but but but + hawkwind reunion with lemmy
OS: No Sleep Til Detox - The Unofficial Never Updated Motorhead Page
OS: Lemmy interview on http://www.hawkwind.com
OS on ListBot
OS: Hawkwind albums with Lemmy
Overnight Sensation, ListBot & listservs in general
OS: How to work Listbot
OS: Hiccup
OS: To those of you who suck.
OS: hawkwind
OS Re: Many Apologies
OS Motorhead aLive and well
OS: the new OS mailing-system
OS: Stupid
OS: Re: Many Apologies
OS on ListBot
OS: hello all
OS: The Process of Weeding Out
OS: Hawkwind albums with Lemmy
Re: Overnight Sensation Issue #93
OS: you suck!!!


Date: March 24, 2000
From: acetrump@bigfoot.com
Subject: os: lists, lists, lists

Greetings Fellow Motorheadbangers!!

Oh my, oh my. You know, for he most part, doing the Overnight Sensation mailing list is truly a labor of love. It give me great pleasure to be able to bring together Motorhead fans from across the globe and give them a forum to interact. It takes a great deal of time to keep this up, as well as the official Motorhead website. But, really, I don't mind. They are an awesome band and I truly enjoy the work. What I don't enjoy is the mundane, trivial task of maintaining the actual list for Overnight Sensation. This takes between 2-3 hours a week of mindless, boring work. The kind of work that computers were invented to alleviate from mankind in the first place. So, I finally decided to check out the alternatives out there for a list service and settled on Listbot.

Listbot had served me well for the list I maintain for the Nuclear Blast USA website (if you haven't seen the website, take a look at http://www.nuclearblast-usa.com, I am quite proud of it) and so I though it would be worthwhile to assign the greatest list in the world to this service. But, I made a small error in one of the settings when I first set up the list and it caused every email that someone sent as a reply to the OS post to be re-broadcast to the entire list. I have a day job and do not check my email during the day, so this error was not evident to me until I got home in the afternoon to be greeted by 650 emails... I fixed the problem and it should not happen again.

A lot of people got very upset about the influx of emails they received as a result of my little error. In fact we lost over 200 subscribers on that day. What also happened, which I did not anticipate, is that there are several of the email addresses on the list that had not been getting their issues of OS because their server of their mailbox automatically refused emails from any sender with a reply address from bigfoot.com. I utilize the excellent services there (if you don't know what they offer, check out http://www.bigfoot.com and tell 'em I sent ya) but so do a lot of spam artists... hence the ban that a lot of sites have on these emails. The list bot is sending the emails from an address that is NOT from bigfoot, so suddenly several of these people got their first taste of OS... some of them were pissed off. Oh well...

Bottom line is this.: the list bot service is already helping me save a lot of time and energy in getting out OS. It lets me concentrate on the really cool part of all this, actually assembling the OS letter, and leaves the mundane BS to the computers. So, PLEASE, if for whatever reason you decide to leave out little family (i.e. unsubscribe), please just send an email to overnightsensation-unsubscribe@listbot.com. Just sending an email to this address from the email address that you subscribe to OS to will take you off. From this point forward I will NOT accept unsubscribes that are just mailed to me. To get off of the list, you will have to send an email to overnightsensation-unsubscribe@listbot.com. These instructions will be repeated in every issue of OS.

Anyway, I do want to thank you all for your support. It was wonderful to get over 100 emails after the fact showing support for OS and everything that I do here. I want all of you that wrote and all of you that support this project to know that I really appreciate it and all of you. This is, without a doubt, one of the coolest projects that I have ever been priviledged to participate in and I thank you.

Now, that having been said, onto the loudest band in the world, MOTORHEAD. Lemmy is still mastering the new album. He expected to be finished this past week, but I did not get an update before sending out this letter. I do know that there is a tour shaping up for late May and most of June that will have the boys storming across the US and Canada. I do not know any dates yet but I will post them as soon as I get them on the website.

Also, there is a special event being planned for England in April. Again, I did not get an update before sending this email, so I do not know the status of it. But, it is, after all, the 25th Anniversary of Motorhead... don't families usually get together and celebrate milestones like that... you know... ALL of the family?

Also, as part of my new job, I will be moving to Los Angeles in May. I hope that some of you LA based bangers will make yourselves known to me. :-)

Until next time....

Ace Trump
ICQ: 6055706

Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:18:20
From: "LeDuc, Robert J." rleduc@sandw.com
Subject: motorhead popularity

Why should anyone care if every dweeb in the world loved Motorhead as much as we do? It won't change the fact that they are the greatest band in history. The more the merrier I say. Just my two cents worth. Peace.

Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:42:51 -0800 (PST)
From: James Caygill - jamescaygill@yahoo.com
Subject: os: st valentines day massacre.. and other things..


The easiest way I can suggest to find out what it says is to record the song from your CD onto a blank cassette and then play the cassette upside down on a four-track recorder. I haven't done it, so I don't know what it says, but a musician buddy of mine says that it'll work fine. Just make sure there's nothing recorded on the other side of the cassette or it'll bleed both songs together. Good luck. Keep us apprised of your results.

Ryan Randall

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:25:55
From: Gooda Edward - edward.gooda@winterthur.com
Subject: re: you have been added to overnight sensation


Thanks for the latest O/S.
You are doing a great job in keeping this going. I dread to think how much hassle this is causing you.
You have terrific support in the UK for your work. I wish you every success in your new job - the magazine looks great and I'll be subscribing immediately.
Let us know if you ever make it over to the UK - a lot of people here owe you a beer or 2!
Keep up the good work!


**Ace: Thanks very much for the kind words Ed.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:47:23 PST
From: "Tom Marshall" dwarfer41@hotmail.com
Subject: re: phsco squad demo

Alright everyone??

You all seemed pretty interested in Phill's son's band. I was reading this months Metal Hammer (great mag, huh??) and to my amazmement they had a Phyco Squad demo tape in their demo section. They rated it 9/10 (!!) and they said that "it sounds like Machine Head, Sepultura and Amen". Phyco Squad also did a cover of 1916 and they said "thei 1916 Motorhead cover is excellent".

I will give you the contact address and how much it costs n the list if you like. I thaught it would be a nice thing to have in all our collection(s), and Phil would be very pleased to hear about it.
Cheers, keep the good work up, I willl try not to bother you anymore!!!


P.s. Try Jungle.com for MOTRHEAD albums, there great for my bands such as the Hellacopters and Wildhearts!!!!

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:33:47 CST
From: "Aeiough Aeiough" aeiough@hotmail.com
Subject: re: 15-year-old girls buying motorhead t-shirts?

Frankly, I find that really exciting.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:56:21
From: "Christ, Will" wchrist@bcharrispub.com
Subject: os: hawkwind version of motorhead on cd

This is to answer the question of whether there is a Hawkwind-version of "MotTrhead" on CD.
There is a double CD Hawkwind release called "The Ambient Anarchists" that includes this track with Lemmy doing the vocals.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:15:02
From: "Ketil Svendsen" ketil.svendsen@fiskaren.nhst.no
Subject: Lemmy interview on http://www.hawkwind.com

Hi Ace
Just thought you'd be interested in a Lemmy Q&A we've just published over here on http://www.hawkwind.com!

-- Andy

- Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:45:58
From: "delicat st" delicat@capital.net
Subject: os on listbot

- http://www.imotorhead.com

Hey MHB's,
Isn't this new list supposed to work just exactly like it is, with every email going immediately to every member? I am on 4 other lists and they work like that. That is the point of them, I think. I have been wanting OS to be like that for a while. That way you can discuss subjects more fully and be more involved in the list. I love the "old way" also but hate waiting so long between issues. Is there not a digest form available for those who don't want to be buried with emails? If not, there should be, such as there is on netspace.org lists. But don't everybody just bail at the drop of a hat. God, just how busy can you possibly be??? Pretty busy, I guess! Everyone who's staying, let's get into some good threads soon with so much 'Head activity on the horizon!
Y2K = MOTORHEAD 25 ! ! !

Ready to ROCK,
Jimy CrackcornO

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:55:24
From: Ola Nyberg - ola.nyberg@ebox.tninet.se
Subject: os: hawkwind albums with lemmy

Hello all,

Like most of you, I prefer the digest version of the list. I guess Ace wants to save time by not having to compile the digest once a week (am I right?).
Those of you who want to unsubscribe, do it the automatic way, please. Don't send Ace E-mails asking him to unsubscribe you... Another way is to open another E-mail account and subscribe to the list from there. You can check that account once in a while. That way, it would be almost the same as a digest. Try Hotmail, Yahoo, XOOM, or whatever.

Alain Poncelet asked about Hawkwind albums with Lemmy. Well, here is a list of major releases, without all crappy compilations etc:

Doremi Fasol Latido - 1972
Space Ritual Alive - 1973
Hall Of The Mountain Grill - 1974
Warrior On The Edge Of Time - 1975

All these albums are classic, especially Space Ritual Alive. And available on CD.

Hawkwind's biggest hit, Silver Machine (with Lemmy on vocals), is not featured on any of these albums, because it was released as a single only in 1972. See the compilation below, though.

Lemmy also appeared on a bunch of singles, too many for me to mention here. Alain asked about the single featuring the first version of the song Motorhead. It was released as the B-side of the Kings Of Speed single in 1975. Hawkwind released another version of Motorhead as a single (7 and 12 inch) in 1978 (not sure) with vocals by Dave Brock (instead of Lemmy) and with keyboards instead of violin, a pretty cool version too. I believe the original version of Motorhead, as well as Silver Machine, is available on the awseome compilation (recommended for beginners) Stasis - The UA Years.
It available on CD as well.



Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:10:51 -0000
From: Anthony Edwards - motorhead@catfish.nildram.co.uk
Subject: How to work Listbot

Hi Folks,

I suspect that there is some misunderstanding about how mailing lists work. If you send a mail to the list address, it gets sent to everyone on the list ... straight away. As for the traffic levels, we have had 43 mails to date of which 5 were something other than UNSUBSCRIBE and 1 of those was an advert for Peru (??!). I suspect that when everyone calms down a bit the traffic levels will drop quite considerably.

Anyways, I have had a look around on listbot and found the following:

1 - Go to the web site at http://www.listbot.com/
2 - Press the button at the top marked "Member Login"
3 - Press the link "Lost yours" by the Password button.
4 - Enter the email address you subscribe to the list with and press

The web server will then send you your password.

5 - Go back the page in item 2) above and log in.

You will then be able to alter all sorts of stuff about yourself.

But you can't switch to digest mode.

Ace? You might like to consider switching to another list service that does provide this. I use http://www.onelist.com for a number of the lists that I run, this allows members to chose from a number of different delivery modes, including digest.

For myself, I prefer this delivery mode and have in fact badgered Ace offline a number of times to add an undigested variant to the subscription.

Cheers all

Andy M

**Ace: As I said before, I would like explore options. I will keep you all updated.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:04:47 EST
From: "Night Eidolon" arachne13@hotmail.com
Subject: os: hiccup

There is no reason to apologize. After putting together our list for all this time -- and doing a heck of a job at it -- you are allowed to make a little mistake.
If anything, this little 'Hiccup' as you called it has just weeded out the unloyal bastards on this list.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:49:46 PST
From: "Brian Cooper" piratepete_@hotmail.com
Subject: os: to those of you who suck.

Thanks for mailing me back, you had to be busy. Oh, and put this in the next OS:
To everyone who unsubscribed from OS just because of a simple mistake, go to hell. You should have more patience with the best damn newsletter around. And you call yourselves Motorheadbangers.

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:01:01 EST
From: "danny damien" danscards69@hotmail.com
Subject: hawkwind

re hawkwind albums with lemmy.I have three one is "bring me the head of yuri gagarin"1973 which has "silver machine" on it their "hit" single!, another is a double live album called "flying is trying is dying"also 1973, the cover of which is a huge psychedelic fold out thingo which shows ,amongst other things, a picture of lemmy with the rest of band- rickenbacker in hand of course- and with that famous lemmy stance happening. The other is called "hall of the mountain grill" 1974 and features a song called "lost johnny" written by lemmy. there may be others but that is all i found. Hope it helps- check it out though as the stuff is very interesting. danny ps i also picked up a "best of" hawkwind album which had the song "motorhead" on it but it was sung by dave brock. i have not been able to get hold of a version on which lemmy is playing, if anyone knows of one?

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:33:17 +1100
From: "Mary & Kris Dhondt" mdhondt@acay.com.au
Subject: os re: many apologies

Hi Ace,
Well it nice to see an expert as you is fallible! :-). I hope it is fixed now. I am sure people will come back. It certainly woke everyone up.
Keep up the good work

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:35:28 +1100
From: "Mary & Kris Dhondt" mdhondt@acay.com.au
Subject: os motorhead alive and well

Hi Ace,
Thanks for the great work in keeping us informed what Lemmy and the gang are up to. I have been a Motorhead fan since Overkill came out in the late 70's (showing my age (these days CD).
The other day I was watching some live clips of the Big Day Out in Sydney and a band called Shihad was playing. Their music wasn't bad but the drummer had a Motorhead T-shirt which made me stand and listen (how easy it is to get my attention The other day I was watching some sport and it was acrobatic skiing (I think from Spain?) and the American who won was skiing to the music of Motorhead!
Greetings from Downunder

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:55:19
From: KoenigBenjamin@t-online.de (Grunert)
Subject: the new os mailing-system

Hey Ace!
Just a word about the new way of the list, which didnt last that long: I think the direct way via hotbot.com or isfa.com or whatever is much better than the weekly issue because it offers better opportunitys to discuss things, you neednt wait days for an answear etc., its much straighter, I really like it that way. Of course its annoying if people get tons of mails because some cant figure out how to unsubscribe, what is described in every mail. I can understand that this makes 'em leave because they had hundreds of mails by the list. But if you have a closer look, theres not even a dozen of mails which were not off topic. For my point of view, Id say: Give it a chance! I think itll work out fine!
so long & cheers!

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:50:17
From: "Frouwkje Visser" frok.visser@wxs.nl
Subject: os: stupid

Hallo everybody,

I had no idea some MB's were so stupid! Any one can make mistakes, so we all got enormous piles of emailes! For me no reason to unsubscribe. And I am sure that Lemmy agrees with me, no harm done, none taken!

I forgive you Ace!!!!!!!
Kind regards,


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:18:38
From: "Volker Rohlfs" voro@gmx.net
Subject: re: many apologies

> Hello All...

Hello Ace ...
I just got'an BIG idea for a new song Motrhead should do, ... it's called:


because ... it seems that Motrhead-Fans REALLY like that :-) ...

With melody taken from "Motrhead" ...
"Motrhead, unsubscribe me now, Motrhead, allright!"


Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:09:46 -0000
From: "Volker Rohlfs" voro@gmx.net
Subject: re: os on listbot


> Hey MHB's,
> Isn't this new list supposed to work just exactly like it is, with every
> email going immediately to every member? I am on 4 other lists and they
> work like that. That is the point of them, I think. I have been wanting OS
> to be like that for a while. That way you can discuss subjects more fully
> and be more involved in the list. I love the "old way" also but hate waiting
> so long between issues. Is there not a digest form available for those who
> don't want to be buried with emails?

IMHO, you're right!
This listbot-version-OS is sure more "-rubbish-in-your-mailbox-" but - you can filter out what you don't want!

This "direct-OS" is pretty good, I think' its a lot better handling! I can compare it with old-fashioned-Fido-Net Mail-System which I learned to

love a few thousand years ago. Works fine. Like you said, the reader is much more involved in the list!

Maybe, someone could "compile" all essentials from the "forum" to a weekly list for those who have a "too small E-Mail-Box" or who couldn't handle Mail-Filters


Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:51:50 -0000
From: "Dorian M" dragula82@hotmail.com
Subject: os: hawkwind albums with lemmy

Hello again,

I was wrong about the original Hawkwind version of Motorhead being featured on the Stasis - The UA Years compilation. Silver Machine is on it, but not Motorhead. However, Motorhead is available as a bonus track on the Griffin CD release of the Warrior On The Edge Of Time album (the album on which Kings Of Speed appeared, as well as the classic Magnu).

All the best,

Ola Nyberg

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:41:24
From: "Robu Emanuel" emiuk7@hotmail.com
Subject: re: overnight sensation issue #93

hi all,
as you know i've received your mails like all the others.
I am so sorry to heard that everyone of you whant to unsubscribe... tell me people: this means motorhead for you ?? dont you think that was probably the only way to talk with all motorhead lovers from all the world ?? SO FUCK YOU !!!! you heard what Ace told us: is a easy way for him too.
i would like to talk with those who said unsubscribe cuz they are true lovers of motorhead band, like me.
Be shame...Lemmy & Co & band trusted you...and now ?? because you receive 50 mails an hour or more, with MOTORHEAD subject you dissapointed them...did anyone knows what mIRC means ?? (chat) there are channels (rooms for chat) for almost all the bands name...and did anyone have the ideea for how long i am trying to regist a channel named #motorhead ??
even Michael Jackson have one...i can not, everytime was rejected, but i want let that bastards grind me down (a friend told us that). But you stupid people doesnt read your 50 mails....I'll be very glad to heard that all the people who want to unsubscribe, to never can come back ..NEVER do you hear me >?>>???
So...i am sorry is i was agrressive but this is what you get if you're stupid...
And again FUCK YOU to all the unsubscribe people...(scuse my words the other one)


Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:38:26 -0000
From: "Jim Taylor" jtaylor@theworks.com
Subject: you suck!!!

You really suck Ace. I had so much faith and hope in you and then you go and do this. YOU SUCK THE BIG ONE+ACEAIQAhACE- Don't ever try this shit again with me+ACE- I will wait for an extreme and sincere apology before I unsubscribe, but if you ever, ever do this again. . . . . well, you better just hope that you don't. Lemmy would be disgusted with you you damn wanker+ACE-

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:17:46
From: ISABELLE FOURMOND - fourmond@club-internet.fr
Subject: swing cats

Hello ACE !!

I just bought the SWING CATS - A special tribute to ELVIS
LEMMY plays and sings on :

I saw that there was a Japanese edition of this CD do you know if there are some more sings with LEMMY on this import edition ? Thanks for your informations

Cheers !!!!!!!!



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