Issue #79 - October 8, 1999

OS: Cancelled Dates
OS: What is your problem?
OS: Reply to "Gustavo" Metallica covers
OS: Motorhead Australia
OS: MoD Drummer
OS: someone to help..i mean me
OS: A few Motorhead questions
OS: classic motorhead's better 'cause it's old, right? sarcasm!
OS: finding vinyl
OS: Let's See Some MotorheadBangers
OS: Quit yer bitchin'!
O.S.: Sam Gopal & Motorhead
O.S.: Re: Fuck you all amateurs
OS: bootleg issue
OS: March Or Die
OS: Sam Gopal
OS: 'Decline' track
OS: Motorhead in San Antonio
OS: motorhead show canceled?
OS: Monsters of the millennium
OS: Cancellations?!
OS: Re: Re: Fuck you all amateurs
OS: Bastards
OS: Austin TX Show 10-1-99
OS: Announced Motorhead show in San Francisco
OS: A great bunch of guys
OS: RE: Overnight Sensation Issue #78
OS: Re: Overnight Sensation Issue #78
OS: Motorhead in Denver!
OS: reply to "Mike Lemster"
OS: March Or Die
OS: Tabs
OS : "Hell On Earth"
OS : "On The Road With Motorhead"


Date: October 8, 1999
From: acetrump@bigfoot.com
Subject: os: cancelled dates

Greetings Friends!!

First of all, I apologize for missing the newsletter last week. I had the good fortune to be in New York City for the first time in my life (on business). But, now were back in action! Good news is that for te first time, we have officially crossed the 2000 member barrier! Yup, there are 2048 Overnight Sensation members as of this mailing. AWESOME!

The tour is going very well. The first couple of shows had to be cancelled due to a bout of strep throat that Mikkey was getting over. But, all is right as rain now and the band is storming across the country in fine form. PLEASE send me reports from the shows... I look forward to hearing what went on.

There have been several more tour dates added. I update the webpage tour dates as I get them, so that is the best place to see the latest. On that note, I would also like to mention that if I am handed late breaking news BEFORE an issue of OS is sent, I usually post it on the LATEST NEWS section of the website. So check it often if you want to be on the absolute cutting edge of Motorhead news.


New items will be added this week including signed "Everything Louder" and "Snake Bite Love" posters. Check it out!


Well, the second internet tribute to the loudest band in the world is well underway! We have lots and lots of bands participating and I think it may be even better then the last one! As you know.. that is a VERY tall order considering the talent and style of the first go-round.

I would also like to extend an invitation to any of the bands that participated in the first tribute to submit a new track for the second one.

Any of you out there that are part of a band that loves to play Motorhead tunes, how would you like to contribute a song? The songs would intially available only as Real Audio files on the official website. The first tribute got listened to by thousands people. Here is your chance to get your band heard playing songs by your favorite band!

I have already had several bands email their interest... but we need more. If you are interested, please send me an email to acetrump@bigfoot.com. Make sure that subject of the email is "OS Tribute 2". I will send out a seperate email to the bands with details about the project so that it doesn't clutter up the list.


Alright! We are up to 17members of the Motorheadbangers SETI group.... and we have collectively contributed over 5000 hours of computing time. But I know that we can do WAY more! There are more then 2050 of us on this mailing list... I am SURE that more then 17 of us can participate in this venture. I beleive that if we can all pull our resources together, we could make a serious splash in this. There are some groups that are participating in this that have recieved some publicitiy about their efforts. I would LOVE for the world to know about Motorhead fans and how they pulled together to add to this worthy endeavor. Please take a moment to re-read the details below and consider donating some CPU time... let our voices be heard throughout the cosmos!

SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intellidence) is a program that was initiated by the US Government some years ago to study the radio waves that are transmitted from space. The idea being that if there was life on another planet, they might try to send us radio signals. But, gathering the data for SETI has been easier then actually crunching it through the computers and analysising it. So, with the advent of the internet, they have decided to solicite the help of the millions of PC owners out there to help in the search for life on other planets.

I think it is a really cool notion to have the entire universe listening to Motorhead someday. But first, we gotta find them! So, if you are interested in participating, just head on over to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu and download the screen saver software that analyses the data from the radio telescopes. All the instructions and details are there.

Now, we want our rather loud voices to be heard! To this end, SETI also has allowed groups to combne the efforts of computer owners to show relative rankings in participation. In other words, who has crunched the most data! So, I have created a group for all of us Motorheadbangers! After you have signed up for the SETI@home project, mosey on over to the groups section located at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/team_list.html. Once you are there, use the search engine to find the group called Motorheadbangers. Follow the instructions there on how to contribute your efforts to the group.

Lets show the world that Motorhead fans can do their part!



Tue Oct 12 Minniapolis, MN First Avenue
Wed Oct 13 Milwaukee, WI Eagles Ballroom
Fri Oct 15 Sauget, IL Pop's
Sat Oct 16 Chicago, IL House of Blues
Tue Oct 19 Cincinnati, OH Annie's
Thu Oct 21 Riviera Beach, MD Daytona's
Fri Oct 22 Brooklyn, NY Lamour
Sat Oct 23 San Francisco, CA Cow Palace
Tue Oct 26 Boston, MA Axis
Wed Oct 27 Portland, ME Asylum
Thu Oct 28 Philadelphia, PA Theatre of Living Arts
Fri Oct 29 Springfield, VA Jaxx Nightclub
Sat Oct 30 Hermitage, TN Nashville Shores
Sun Oct 31 Atlanta, GA Masquerade
Tue Nov 02 Ybor City, FL The Masquerade
Wed Nov 03 Lake Buena Vista, FL House of Blues
Thu Nov 04 TBA TBA

w/ Special Guests

Nov 09/99 DK Copenhagen - KB Hall
Nov 10/99 S Malmoe - Baltic Hall
Nov 12/99 S Hlsingbro - Sportshallen
Nov 13/99 S Borlnge - Kupolen
Nov 14/99 S Vaxjo - Strandbjrkshallen
Nov 16/99 S Gothenburg - Liesebergshallen
Nov 18/99 S Stockholm - Solnahallen
Nov 19/99 S Norrkoping - Himmelstalundshallen
Nov 20/99 S Karlskoga - Nobelhallen
Nov 21/99 S Sundsvall - Nordichallen
Nov 23/99 S Umea - Sportshallen
Nov 24/99 S Lulea - Arkushallen
Nov 26/99 FIN Oulu - Icehall
Nov 27/99 FIN Turku - Elus Arena
Nov 29/99 FIN Helsinki - Icehall
Nov 30/99 EST Tallinn - Linnehall


Dec 3/99 London, England Astoria
Dec 4/99 London, England Astoria

Ace Trump
ICQ: 6055706

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:51:32
From: "voice of silence" benos@clam.rutgers.edu
Subject: os: what is your problem?

>From: "Gustavo" overkill@bhmail.com.br
> >Subject: re: fuck you all amateurs

>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:20:58 -0300
>A meu cobro, mudei algumas coisas.
>Um abrao.
>I have received the OS issue, and I have been trying to read all the mails and stuff, but they have only stupid essays and shit. >Some who I would call "Motorhead wood-peckers" say things like "Philthy not being a good drummer, Mickey mouse Dee >is the best, March r Die isn't a weak album... and other similar stuff". Oh God, this fucking weak album isn't heavy enough >to be a soap opera music theme. I don't blame the guys who say things like these. They don't understand Motrhead >because the majority of them became "Big motorhead fans" three months ago. They mail ace of trump just to kiss lemmy's ass >and lick his balls up. Only those who really don't know Motrhead can't see that Mickey Mouse will never reach Mr. >Philthy Animal Taylor's shoes, and that the current band lost the speed and furor from the past. I think the drugs made >Lemmy's brain decay, because he, himself, doesn't understand Motorhead any more, saying insanities like "the best drummer >in the world, Mickey Dee". Also, these wood-peckers will give up for the true Motorhead when Phil Animal comes back and >the true band sound be rescued: when giving up for the true Motorhead, these wood-peckers will also stop listening to the >band, because they will not stand a so heavy sound.
>Fuck you all amateurs !

What in the hell were you on when you wrote this, idiot drugs?! Philthy was a pretty good drummer, but Mikkey Dee is also a good drummer. He's got more of a unique time feel than Philthy, too. Sacrifice is actually 4/4 time, but listen to the way he plays it, man! And as for March Or Die being a weak album: The tone itself might have been kind of weak, but I don't think the songwriting was weak at all. And I've been listening to Motorhead for about four years now, so don't give me any "oh you fucking amateur ohhaauhgght!" Nobody fuck wit' de Jesus, man!!

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:27:51 +1000
From: "Kelly Harrison" outlawrebel76@hotmail.com
Subject: motorhead australia

>From: "Stuart Fleming" stuartfleming@hotmail.com
>Subject: os: help me out here

>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:05:16
>Hi fellow motorhead fans,
>Ok I know I've gone on about this b4 and gotten some encouragment from a few people (thanks phil from NZ). The topic is >motorhead in Australia. Ace last time I wrote you said to try to find a promoter that would bring them out.
Hi Ace, I empatise with with Stuart. Some how we need to get Motorhead to come down under. I have no solution but want to give my voice to the call to get Motorhead to Australia. I received my T-shirt last week and I must say it is great! I can't wait to wear it to a Motorhead gig in Sydney
Keep up the great work Ace, Regards Kris

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:34:34
From: Tim Shockley - ellentim@megsinet.net
Subject: os: mod drummer

Hey Ace,

I've always heard Tommy Aldredge (Black Oak Arkansas, Ozzy, Pat Travers, everyone!) played drums on March Or Die. And yes, it was a bit of a weak album! Not to sound like a Motorhead woodpecker, whatever the hell that is, not only is Mickey Dee a better drummer than Phil Taylor, but so is Aldredge! I've seen all three numerous times since the early 80's so I didn't become a fan "three months ago"! Hell, even Lemmy says Dee is better than Taylor! You don't believe him??? Hey, let's even throw Pete Gill into the mix!!!

Tim Shockley MHB672(H)

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:07:01
From: "Robu Emanuel" emiuk7@hotmail.com
Subject: someone to help..i mean me

i want from motorhead a page on internet or something to read lirycs, the page http://www.imotorhead.com doensnt work,i dont know other one.. anyway...or if someone can send me thro the mail some lyrics... (it is only love for sale, i cant believe is legal , to send it thro the mail...(motorhead):o)))))))}
please, some one for god sake....nobody hear me???
i am a MOTORHEA fun, (if God is with me..who is agains me ???)

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:09:11
From: Jason Loxam - lammy@home.com
Subject: os: a few motorhead questions

Hello, fellow Motorhead mailinglist readers, cheers from Central Alberta,

A few questions:

I'm in need of any and all Motorhead bass (and guitar, actually) tabs. Unfortunately, http://www.motorhead.com/tabs is either down or otherwise unavailable to me via my ISP, or I've got the outright wrong URL! Specifically, I'm looking for bass tabs for Rock and Roll, Bomber, and Iron Fist. I recently took up playing bass again after a long period of not playing, and unfortunately, my ears aren't what they used to be!

Motorhead shirts - I'm looking for anything I can get my hands on, but I've not had much luck finding QUALITY ones here, and I'd like to support the band as directly as I possibly can. Missed their last show in Calgary, unfortunately, so I'm (Motorhead) shirtless these days. I know about the mailinglist shirts, which my payment is off in the mail tomorrow for 2 shirts, Ace!

Also, is the band playing Canada again? I know they are on tour with Nashville Pussy (don't miss these guys, a great band, and their bass player is a Goddess!), it was rumored they were playing some Canadian shows, but I've not seen anything but US dates, unfortunately. If not, are they playing anywhere in the NW USA? Seattle, Spokane, Montana, etc?

Oh, while I'm here, does anyone know what label the "Built for Speed" tribute/comp was on? I recieved it as a birthday gift from a friend, taped, with little information other than titles and tracks. I want to buy the original, but my local record shop needs to know the label for some unknown reason. Pretty good album, too! The Zeke, Electric Frankenstein, Dropkick Murphys and (REO) Speedealer tracks really stand out. Road Crew by EF damn near rivals the original, provided you enjoy the punk thing to begin with.

Whups, sorry for the lengthy post, folks!
Thanks folks, keep on keepin' up.
Red Deer, Alberta, Canada

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:13:44
From: "Max Headroom" shluzas@hotmail.com
Subject: os: classic motorhead's better 'cause it's old, right? sarcasm!

>I have received the OS issue, and I have been trying to read all the mails and stuff, but they have only stupid essays and shit. >Some who I would call "Motorhead wood-peckers" say things like "Philthy not being a good drummer, Mickey mouse Dee >is the best, March vr Die isn't a weak album... and other similar stuff".

I'm going to use this mail as an example to denounce this way of thinking. This type of fan seems interested more in Motornostalgia than the music. Instead of listening to the new stuff (which is better in many ways, especially musically) with an open mind, they judge on the basis that no Motorhead could be better than the "classic" Lemmy/Fast Eddie/ Philthy Animal lineup. I don't like that. Mickey Dee is simply a better drummer than Philthy Animal. No two ways about it, he's just more competent. I prefer Fast Eddie to Phil Campbell, but that's just me. I prefer the new albums to the old by virtue of their still being Motorhead, but evolved into an even-more distinct sound through the wisdom they've gained over their career. Lemmy is a better musician now than he was when he started the band. They still play their old stuff, and they do play a hell of a lot, so there's not much chance of their forgetting their signature style (though Metallica sure blew it on that front).

Oh God, this fucking weak album
>isn't heavy enough to be a soap opera music theme. I don't blame the guys who say things like these.

March or Die, while pretty weak and fairly commercial, is still good. It's got several really great songs on it, including Stand, a great cover of Cat Scratch Fever, Bad Religion, Hellraiser, and, of course, March or Die. The other songs are kinda average Motorhead, like those songs I never think of from Orgasmatron or Iron Fist (Mean Machine, Don't Need Religion, etc.). I'd call the album a stumbling block, for lack of a better word/phrase. Still, I find it pretty hard to argue that the music on, say, Ace of Spades is better than that on, say, Overnight Sensation. Ace of Spades was fast and ferocious and all that, but OS is cleaner and more well-thought-out. It's still got Motorhead's speed and ferocity, but also a hint of sophistication they didn't used to have.

They don't understand Motvrhead because
>the majority of them became "Big motorhead fans" three months ago.

I became a fan after Sacrifice, when I first heard of them. What makes a fan who happens to be older, and thus more likely to have heard them during the eighties, more qualified to pass judgement than someone who just started listening to 'em "three months ago", and found out they're the best band in the world? It's a pretty easy thing to realize, and it doesn't even take
that long.

>They mail ace of trump just to kiss lemmy's ass and lick his balls up.

What do you do? Offer Lemmy critique? Hell, no. Your type says "Lemmy, you were better a long time ago 'cause I've some really good memories. Too bad your current stuff will never match those memories 'cause I'm holding you to such a high standard!"

>Only those who really don't know Motvrhead can't see that Mickey Mouse will never reach Mr. Philthy Animal Taylor's >shoes, and that the current band lost the speed and furor from the past.

But they DIDN'T lose the speed OR the furor. Just look at Take the Blame. Or Burner. Those two songs are faster and fiercer and way more savage than anything off Ace of Spades (this type of fan always classifies Ace of Spades as their best album, usually 'cause it's the most famous. That's a subconscious thing they probably don't realize). Overkill (the song), though...

I think the drugs
>made Lemmy's brain decay, because he, himself, doesn't understand Motorhead any more, saying insanities like "the best >drummer in the world, Mickey Dee".

He may very well be the best drummer in the world. Philthy Animal isn't even qualified to compete. And how could Lemmy not understand Motorhead? He IS Motorhead! Were they to keep their style without ever improving or changing, we'd be stuck with a drug-addled Hawkwind spinoff. Were they to stay with the same style as AoS or Bomber, they'd have long since fizzled out. As Lemmy says on the back of 1916 "Stale and on a treadmill in our careers..." They were going nowhere! That change of scenery did wonders for the band! For a band to stay alive, they've got to be dynamic. Stagnance leads to death.

Also, these wood-peckers will give up for the true
>Motorhead when Phil Animal comes back and the true band sound be rescued: when giving up for the true Motorhead, these >wood-peckers will also stop listening to the band, because they will not stand a so heavy sound.

I really think Motorhead would lose a lot if they kicked out Mickey Dee and resigned Philthy Animal... and it wouldn't just be the superior drumming. I'd still listen, and probably like, but I'd be disappointed as all get-down.

>Fuck you all amateurs !

Lousy pointless Motorhead in-fighting.

>Lemmy's lyrics can be su-frigging-perb. I hope he keeps them going like he has been.

They can also be goofy, just like him. I'm the Man has some of his best lyrics, and so does March or Die, even though the two sets of lyrics are nothing alike. "I can't stand/I ain't got no chair"

>But almost every album (not only Motvrhead) that I have has at least one weak song on it ( except Sacrifice and Overnight >Sensation and Metallica's Black Album).

Holier than Thou? You're right about the two Motorhead ones, though. SBL's got... jeez, I can't remember the name. Right before Joy of Labour. The "scary" one.

I don't really have an opinion on bootlegs. I don't own any, but all those I've heard have had horrendously shitty sound quality, and I would never consider buying 'em. This applies to bootlegs of ANY band I've seen. A great example is the Metallica video "Cliff 'em all". All the footage is taken from bootleg videos from concerts. Just terrible. Grainy, shaky, and the music "runs". I don't see how people could buy the things if this were the situation with all of them. Is it? Are there good quality bootlegs out there? Is my above rant coherent?

**Ace: Very coherent and well thought out. Thanks!

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:32:25
From: jdean@lginfocomm.com (James Dean)
Subject: os: finding vinyl

Can you please tell me where to ask for or find some of the newer releases on vinyl. You might have seen another e-mail I sent under the ask motorhead page where I mention I have 30 something motorhead albums (all originals, except the compilations etc.). Though the last couple I can only find on tape or CD.Please tell me they came on vinyl. I,ve been grabbing Motorhead stuff since I was 11 , in 1981, and have even been lucky enough to find some original singles from england, the original
white vinyl Motorhead album with inner sleeve, and of course a few leather No Remorse editions . To get this far though and not be able to find any of the last couple releases on album is killing me. The reason I seek answers from elswhere is cuz I've had both my record stores tell me they didnt make them in vinyl but I did see O.S. once in New Mexico but I was empty pocketed. That was one they said didnt exist. So I know their high. Can anyone throw me in the right direction? Maybe even help me find some of the only earlier ones I'm missing , like a couple 45's. I'm sure thats a long shot though. Anyhoot, hope to hear from someone. P.S. I would really like to get on some list (If this isnt it) that would notify me when they play southern cal. Or tell me where i can send a picture of my back which sports a dinner plate size Motorhead tattoo.( no, i dont think it makes me cool , but It does make me proud!!!). I hear there's a contest or a page you can dislay yourself on and I would like to be a part of that . thanks alot please reply

**Ace: Send a scan of a picture of your tattoo and it will go on the MH for Life page. As far as vinyl goes, I have had great success on http://www.ebay.com. I recently saw vinyl copies of SBL and Everything Louder for sale there....

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:06:35
From: "Mike G." lizdblzzrd@yahoo.com
Subject: os: let's see some motorheadbangers

Hey Ace,
Have you ever thought about making a link with pictures of OS MotorheadBangers out there. That way it's easier to locate other OS fans at shows!!


**Ace: This sort of exists now... in the gallery. But at the moment it is pictures of fans with the band (for the most part). If you all would like a general gallery of fans, let me know.

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:28:18
From: "jarjar65" jarjar65@excite.com
Subject: os: quit yer bitchin'!

Ok, I work in a sci-fi store and I've never heard so much geek talk in my life as I have heard recently in this newsletter! Really! I love Motorhead. Yes, some of their records are better than others. Name any band who has a perfect track record. Better yet, YOU try and do better! Who cares if Mikky is better than Philty! I enjoy them both. Philthy has a style that is different from any other drummer I have ever heard. Mikky is, by far, one of the most AMAZING drummers I have ever heard or seen. They are two different people, so they play two different ways. Bottom line. As for March or Die...while it may not be what YOU wanted when it came out, I liked it. In fact, "Stand" is one of my favorite Motorhead songs of all time. It came out at a time in my life when I needed someone to tell me just that...and, unfortunately, it had to come from a record because that was the only way it could have gotten through to me back then. Anyway, if any of you get the chance to see Motorhead with Nashville Pussy...DO IT! Not only do Lemmy and Co. rock harder than anyone, NP is the BEST new live act I have seen in I don't know how long! Buy their album, too...it rocks!

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:29:08 -0300
From: "Alpendre" alpendre@mandic.com.br
Subject: o.s.: sam gopal & motorhead

Howdy. I have Sam Gopal's Escalator CD, original LP mixes with the single Horse / Back door man as bonus tracks (Stable Records SLE 8001) and it's great fun to listen. Lemmy, plays guitar and sings. He composed most of the album tracks, including the uptempo killer title track. We started talkin' 'bout Hawkwind and finally got here. The album has some things that would later re-emerge on some Motorhead songs... "The sky is burning" has an introduction that's similar to "Dead and Gone" from Snake bite love (!!!); "You're alone now" has lyrics that previews "Stone dead forever" and a chorus of Hawkwind's/Motorhead's "The watcher". In time: for those of us (not including me but including Lemmy) who said On parole is a weak album, I say it's one of the hottest! On parole has all the fire and anger one might expect. Take a good loud listen, folks, and I swear you won't be disappointed. And it has the best-ever (IMHO) version of "City kids", this alone would be enuff. One last thing: my last opinion about what songs on what albums Lemmy sang with Hawkwind is: You have to get, beside all MH albums, all HW albums as well (at least all from '72 to '75, of course), the Sam Gopal album and the stuff from Opal Betterfly (which I never heard yet) and the Rocking Vickers work (there's a good CD comp. called Lifelines, althought hard to find). So EVERYTHING Lem recorded is a must have. Sorry, but that's the truth. "When you're hot, you're hot;
When you're not, you're not." --Jerry Reed
Yours sincerely, Ricardo Alpendre do Brasil

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:34:06 -0300
From: "Alpendre" alpendre@mandic.com.br
Subject: o.s.: re: fuck you all amateurs

Reply to Gustavo. Meu irmo, voc entrou de sola na molecada do nosso prprio time ?!? Gustavo from my country called the kids Motorhead woodpeckers (pica-paus, as we say here in Brazil). I had a great time reading his mail but ... take it easy, folk. It's funny I'm talkin' to you in English 'cos it's not to only you, so here we go. Well, the kids could be hearing useless crap like oasis or pseudo-dance-music, but they're listening to Motor-fuckin'-head, so no need to complain about their opinions. As brazilians, we know chances were 99 against 1 that they would be dancing the Tchan (one of the biggest hits of the decade here, it geared countless note-by-note copies by both the same and other "artists", each one brings a ridiculous dance-craze). Or other kinds of non-genuine, get-ritch-quick, bubblegum of the worst of the species that floods this country. So the kids are alright, brother. (But I must admit, you're quite tuff).
"When I go places I just don't care. You'll know why if you see what I wear": Motorhead t-shirt , and I go out on the streets, even when I go play football (soccer) with humble guys that don't know what's all about. But then comes this folk who says Motorhead is great, and no matter which age or line-up of the band he (or rather she) likes the most, we are the best!!! But we can let their education go on so they'll love the timeless (never old) albums as much as the newer. Take care of y'all. Ricardo Alpendre do Brasil

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:43:00
From: gaumann@webtv.net (Eric Gaumann)
Subject: os: march or die

Weak? Depends on how you call it, I think. Every Motorhead album I have heard has at least two songs that I am fiercely into and one or two I just don't like. March or Die is no exception, as I don't care much for the Ozzy bits or the title track, but I think "Stand" embodies part of the Motorhead spirit as well as the recklessness of "Ace" and "Fast And Loose", the unstoppability of "Road Crew" and "Motorhead", and the flat-out power of "Bomber" and "Sex And Death", in the same way that "Name In Vain" carries on the tradition of "(I Won't) Pay Your Price". Plus, "Asylum Choir" is neatly melodic and still very powerful. Great riff to come back to after the chorus.

It's kind of a weird album, with the Ozzy break in the middle of it, but it's still solidly Motorhead in my opinion.

And the title track is starting to grow on me as I write this.
Keyboard. Nifty.

Speaking thereof, thanks to those who are filling in Hawkwind details. I subscribed to the BOC/Hawkwind list but never got anything back. In case anyone's curious, there's a handy guide to telling actual releases apart from compilations
(difficult with this band, at least for me) http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/reviews/

The color scheme is *squint*...well, just *squint*. I have a cleaned-up text version I printed out to take to the cd store if anyone wants it, but it may be out of date.

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:16:17
From: "Artyom Golew" artyom1916@mail.ru
Subject: re: os: sam gopal

> From: Zeitgeist - stuarthamilton@connectfree.co.uk
> Subject: os: sam gopal

> does anybody know why Lemmy called himself Ian Willis on this album? I thought his surname was Kilminster. If you're >going to use a pseudonym why not use something cool like Ramases Q.Templeton or something. >Not Ian f**king Willis.

I think that Lemmy would find your message very offencieve if he would find a time to read it. Willis is HIS OWN NAME,he got it from his stepfather,and lived with it for more than 20 years.After a year or two after Sam Gopal affair he changed his second name to Kilmister,'cause it was the name of his real father.

>Lemmy wrote half of the original compositions

Lemmy wrote ALL THE SONGS (except of 'Angry Faces' by Davidson and 'Season Of The Witch' by Leitch)on that album,but he credited some to the 'Group' in order to give the other members an opportunity to get some royalties.

Artyom MHB1916

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:26:45
From: "Artyom Golew" artyom1916@mail.ru
Subject: os: 'decline' track

Hello to everybody!
An answer to:

> From: "Matthew Dobson" mdobson@netactive.co.za
> Subject: os: decline of western civilisation part ii

> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:27:20

> Any idea where one can obtain a copy of the opening track 'Loser' from this video. I've hunted high and low to no avail - is it >available on disc??.

You're mistaken a little:the opening track on 'Decline Of Western Civilization,pt.2' video is not a 'Loser',but 'Cradle To The Grave',(you're right,it's an exellent song!).It was released for a first time as a B-side of 'Eat The Rich' 7" & 12" single( hey,hello to Terry Roberts! Thank you once again,Terry,you know what I mean!).There is also a soundtrack to that movie,and this song is featured there,also it was released on 'The Best Of MOTORHEAD'album (very original title!) on Live Club Audio (cat#:76 594 1),and as a bonus track on remastered 'Rock'N'Roll' album.

All the best for everybody,
Artyom MHB1916

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:39:53
From: ARIOCH - arioch@world-net.net
Subject: Motorhead in San Antonio

Great site! I spent hours here , you did a great job.

Im bummed, Motorhead cancelled this evening at the White Rabbit in San Antonio Texas, there is much weeping and nashing of teeth here. I wonder what happened. I know the show did not sellout in advance, but typical San Antonio waits til the last second to pickup and do right. We are waiting... we want our MOTORHEAD! catch ya later..

- Keith

**Ace: Mikkey was sick.

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:14:33 (CDT)
From: BERTMOO7@webtv.net (Bert Martinez)
Subject: motorhead show canceled?

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what to happened to the san antonio, texas show? i found out a few hours before the show. i got my refund and are they going to make up the date? any info would be thankful. i hope everything is ok with them.


**Ace: Mikeey was sick. I do not know at this time if the dates will be made up.

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:48:50 +0300
From: "Jukka Lavonen" jukka.lavonen@kvaliitti.fi
Subject: monsters of the millennium

As you allready know, Motrhead will tour Scandinavia with Dio and Manowar this November!
We have opened a web site for the tour in Finland http://www.eastway.fi/monsters
We would highly appreciate, if you put this link to Motrhead official web site, and all the other possible sites, if you want.

Best regards
Lamppa Lavonen
mediayhti kvaliitti

Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:56:22
From: "DAVID DIPIETRO" dipietrd@ci.farmers-branch.tx.us
Subject: cancellations?!

Please tell me no!!!
I understand that Motorhead has cancelled the past 2 nights in New Orleans and San Antonio.
Is the Dallas Show still on? What's the deal? Please, please...

David in Dallas

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:13:00
From: Mike Lemster - wizzzo1916@yahoo.com
Subject: os: re: re: fuck you all amateurs

>> From: "Gustavo" overkill@bhmail.com.br
>> >> Subject: Re: Fuck you all amateurs
>> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:20:58 -0300
>> A- meu cobrLo, mudei algumas coisas.
>> Um abrao.

>>I have received the OS issue, and I have been trying to read all the mails and stuff, but they have only stupid essays
>>and shit. Some who I would call "Motorhead wood-peckers" say things like "Philthy not being
>>a good drummer, Mickey mouse Dee is the best, March Tr Die isn't a weak album... and other
>>similar stuff". Oh God, this fucking weak album isn't heavy enough to be a soap opera music theme. I
>>don't blame the guys who say things like these. They don't understand MotTrhead because
>>the majority of them became "Big motorhead fans" three months ago. They mail ace of trump just to
>>kiss lemmy's ass and lick his balls up. Only those who really don't know MotTrhead can't
>>see that Mickey Mouse will never reach Mr. Philthy Animal Taylor's shoes, and that the
>>current band lost the speed and furor from the past. I think the drugs made Lemmy's brain decay,
>>because he, himself, doesn't understand Motorhead any more, saying insanities like "the best drummer
>>in the world, Mickey Dee". Also, these wood-peckers will give up for the true Motorhead when Phil Animal
>>comes back and the true band sound be rescued: when giving up for the true Motorhead,
>>these wood-peckers will also stop listening to the band, because they will not stand a so heavy sound.
>> Fuck you all amateurs !

Hello everybody,

In previous OS mailing list #78, I've read a letter from some brazilian dude, and this letter really pissed me off. I felt that I just can't remain speechless and that I have to answer that motherfucking letter with "Fuck you all amateurs" subject.

>>Some who I would call "Motorhead wood-peckers" say things like "Philthy not being a good drummer,
>>Mickey mouse Dee is the best, March Tr Die isn't a weak album... and other similar stuff". Oh God,
>>this fucking weak album isn't heavy enough to be a soap opera music theme.

If you care so much about heaviness in music, I recommend you a band called 'Cannibal Corpse' or crap like that to get your weak brain fucked. But I bet that would be impossible, because it's already totally fucked up and you showed that, cagalhLo.

>>They don't understand MotTrhead because the majority of them became "Big motorhead fans"
>>three months ago. They mail ace of trump just to kiss lemmy's ass and lick his balls up.

If you think you're too big-headed to know everything about "the majority of us", you better start to lick my balls and beija minha bunda. Seems you think that you're only real Motorhead fan, but you're just a real asshole, because true fans are always with the band. But you 'wood-pecker' found your way in the criticism. You think you criticize, but you just stink too fucking much. Well, you're saying that nobody 'understands' Motorhead (except you, maybe? ehhehehe), whereas you still don't understand that you're complete dumb ass.

>>Only those who really don't know MotTrhead can't see that Mickey Mouse will never reach Mr. Philthy
>>Animal Taylor's shoes

Nobody says that Philthy Taylor used to be bad. No way. On the contrary, he used to be very cool drummer when he was younger. He already could be immortal only for the thing that he played drum track in legendary Overkill song. But Dee is definitely better than Taylor as a drummer. Philthy doesn't even stand close to Mikkey. If you don't see that, you're blind or just too damn stupid.

>>and that the current band lost the speed and furor from the past. I think the drugs made Lemmy's brain
>>decay, because he, himself, doesn't understand Motorhead any more, saying insanities like "the best
>>drummer in the world, Mickey Dee"

Well, check last 4 studio albums of Motorhead out. I mean Bastards, Sacrifice, Overnight Sensation and Snake Bite Love. Seems you're deaf or permanently fucked up to see that these albums have enough 'speed and furor'. Then, you're writing that 'I think the drugs made Lemmy's brain decay, because he, himself, doesn't understand Motorhead anymore saying insanities like "the best drummer in the world, Mickey Dee" " Well, you're trying to seem that you still can think, but I assure you that you just can't think anymore, because your fucking brain is definitely decayed by shit named 'caipirinha'.

If some of you suckers think that Lemmy's brain is drying because of the drugs, just check his lyrics out. Or you're too fucking stupid for that? I doubt very much that you're able to write something like that, even if you had a mega-brain. Then, I wanna say about Dee again. Maybe, Lemmy exaggerates a bit saying about Mikkey that he's best drummer in the world, but, anyway, at least Dee is just the excellent drummer. If somebody dare to argue about this fact, that person it complete idiot in the sphere of music. And that idiot wrote that Lemmy doesn't understand Motorhead anymore. Well, let me tell you one thing: Lemmy is Motorhead HIMSELF, so I doubt very fucking much he's not able to understand himself. Only thing I know is that some assholes like that dumb ass from Brazil just don't understand that.

>>Also, these wood-peckers will give up for the true Motorhead when Phil Animal comes back and the true
>>band sound be rescued: when giving up for the true Motorhead, these wood-peckers will
>>also stop listening to the band, because they will not stand a so heavy sound.

Fuck, this is the worst bullshit I ever heard.

Funny, funny.
Seems that 'wood-pecker' thinks that Motorhead used to be REAL when they were with Philthy. Bollocks! Answer one question then, what's Motorhead NOW? I didn't get the meaning. Are you meaning that Motorhead is NOT 'true' right now???? Damn, dude, you're mentally sick then.

Finally, if you think that 'Motorhead' and 'so heavy sound' are equal words, you're definitely have to visit psychiatrist or just listed to crap like Cannibal Corpse. Drink your caipirinha and listen to your shitty brazilian bands like Angra or Ratos de Porao. In fact, make the world a better place and kill yourself.

Chupa meu caralho, you fucking 'profie', Motorhead expert, hahahahaha.
The world is full of assholes, because asshole is an international profession, and that brazilian bastard is one of them.

To Ace Trump:
Hey, Ace, why did you post a letter from that motherfucker here? That 'Fuck you all amateurs' letter offended TRUE Motorhead fans. I dare to say that you're supposed to keep some kind of :.. hhhhmm censorship. Hhehehe.


Mike Lemster

**Ace: I know this would come up eventually... my role here is to moderate this forum and get the info out. I do not take the role of a censor in this newsletter. I think it is important to let people speak their minds in the form that they feel comfortable with. This is my current position. If you (as a group) wish me to become a censor, I will do it... but I need your mandate to do it. Motorhead has always been about being who you are. If your an asshole, be an asshole. I can gag these people if you want me too... but remember, the next person that might get gagged could be you. Too all of you, let me know your opinions... send an email to acetrump@bigfoot.com witht eh subject being "OS: Censor". Let me know if you want me to poilce these things more.... its your list, time to be heard.

Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:33:38
From: "Dhira Lalita" dhira.lalita@virgin.net
Subject: bastards

CDnow.com has Bastards, if anyone is interested. Cost me $10 plus shipping, which by UK standards, is a good price. Towereurope.com also list it, and I had ordered it from them along with some Pink Fairies, but CDnow came home first. Flaming good tracks as well, really rocks. I love it to bits already!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:48:53 (CDT)
From: kennethwayne@webtv.net
Subject: Austin TX Show 10-1-99 -

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Last nights show was BAD ASS!My sixth time in fifteen years!They kicked my ass!

Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:03:58 (CDT)
From: kennethwayne@webtv.net
Subject: Oct 1 99 BADASS SHOW!

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I would like very much if someone who was at this show would contact me.Also the show the night after in Dallas or the night before in San Antonio.MOTORHEAD ROCKS!

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:56:56
From: frank@alpeng.com (Frank Ferrigno)
Subject: motorhead tours u.s

I see on the ticketmaster web site that Motorhead is playing in Orlando Fl. on Nov.3. I live in Ft. Lauderdale Fl. and hope they can come down here to South Florida again. Lemmy has played here 3 times in the 90's so far and each time it was a great show. Definitely the highlight of OZZFEST '98. Any other dates planned yet?

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:10:58
From: Gordon J - gordon-j@pacbell.net
Subject: announced motorhead show in san francisco

Hey, Motorhead is listed as the top act at the Exotic and Erotic Ball in San Francisco on October 23 at the Cow Palace. Any other MH dates in the works in SF? If not perhaps MH would be interested in playing a smaller club @ a higher ticket price for a last minute show in SF, being they're here anyhow. That would be a blast.

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:29:32 -1000
From: "Brenda Wagner" wagnerb@hawaii.rr.com
Subject: a great bunch of guys

My first encounter with the guys was when I flew into LAX to go on tour with Nazareth in 86. My ride was no where to be found due to miscommunication. I continued to wait... Anyway they walked out of the doors and I preceded to walk up to them and chat as they were waiting for their ride. When the ride arrived knowing I was stuck they offered me a ride.
I never got to thank them for their hospitality. Thanks for everything. Is Andrew still part of the road crew??? Would really like to get in touch with him and thank him. Can you help??? I don't remember his last name. Last address I had was in I believe, Duncan Fife, Scotland. Email would be cool
Keep Rocking on Guys...


Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:35:10
From: "Paravecchio, Timothy V, METRO" tparavecchio@att.com
Subject: re: overnight sensation issue #78

id LAA12207

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssss DENVER,,IT'S 10-05-1999 and The Party is ON>>>T-9.5 Hours It's been a long time comming. It's time to tear the Ogden Down........

Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:09:58
From: "Richard Moore" richard.moore6@virgin.net
Subject: Re: Overnight Sensation Issue #78

Hey guys, leave "March or die" alone, there's bugger all wrong with it !!! Best album - the new live album. A real ear crushing brain sucker that one ! Regards,

Headbanger Ric

Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:39:33
From: "Strider" strider@pcisys.net
Subject: os: motorhead in denver!

Hey Ace!!
I have been a long time fan of the mighty Motorhead, but finally got to see them live for the first time last night!! I have seen a lot of big name bands in my time, (including Ozzy), but no one comes close to achieving what Lemmy and the boys do!! Motorhead is definitely louder (and better)! than everyone else!!

I also had the fortune to take a friend of mine that was never really into Motorhead to the show last night. Needless to say, he now has a true appreciation of the mighty one s!! Motorhead For Life!! ---strider

P.s. Also got a lot of compliments on the OS t-shirt!!

Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:32:19 -0300
From: "Gustavo" overkill@bhmail.com.br
Subject: os: reply to "mike lemster"

Your mail made us laugh...but I don't have time to read it entirely. A debilized text like that never will change my mind and the mind of the real motorheadbanger, your ignorant beginner. Well, Mickey Mouse Dee isn't worthless, Lemmy can build a theme park called Deesnayland, or something. He can and put some clouwns, too, just like you, (your mail really made us laugh!) that defend mikkey dee as best than ANIMAL.

ps. you may shut up. Brasil and Motrhead aren't bones to stay in mouth of a loser dog.

Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 17:17:55
From: "Artyom Golew" artyom1916@mail.ru
Subject: os: march or die

I think it's time to leave to rest 'March Or Die' album,if everything will continue to go in this direction,we will be drawn into abusing each other!Some people have no respect not only to other fans opinion,but also to the discussed musicians.Lets not turn it into 'Overnight Abusing Mailing List'!

Artyom MHB1916

Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:38:54
From: MetalratML@aol.com
Subject: motorhead

>tshirt is f$#@%^&$#@$#(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! motored!!! doyou have more?white?
>how much? what about a twentieth anniversary shirt ?
>i thought MOTORHEAD was going to play NYC in oct?BASTARDS!!!but ilove em
>and ill definetly see them in 2000 you deserve acouple ofdrinks for the shirt!

From: "stud man" jaymzhet17@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:05:50
OS: hey, i can't ever find tabs of Motorhead...ANYWHERE...
I found some at http://www.motorhead.com one day but from then on I CANT GET IN ANYMORE. how come every comp. i get on says that i can't get into this sight and do you know of a place where i can get some of their tabs??? Write me at JaymzHet17@hotmail.com.

Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 12:07:40
Subject: os: motorhead cover versions

The new issue of Classic Rock has the Top 30 cover versions (as voted by reader).

At No 9 is "Louie Louie" and at No 26 "Motorhead".
For your info the Top 10 was

Rosalie - Thin Lizzy
All Along The Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix
With A Little Help From My Friends - Joe Cocker
Hard To Handle - The Black Crowes
Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City - Whitesnake (the original will be
played at my funeral)
Come Together - Aerosmith
Hush - Deep Purple
You Really Got Me - Van Halen
Louie Louie - Motorhead
Whiskey In The Jar - Metallica (shurely shome mishtake?)

Overall a reasonable issue, but next months trails King Crimson, Deep Purple, Lemmy, Blue Oyster Cult and Ted Nugent! they also mention the rumour (which apparently has some credence) that Castle Donington will return next year with Iron Maiden & Ted Nugent.

Blessings and peace from all at; Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:10:45
From: mstarkweather@webtv.net (Michael Starkweather)
Subject: OS: BOSTON SHOW!!

Hi Ace, I just saw Boston was added to the tour dates. I'me so ready for that show! I was also wondering if eney one wanted to meet up before the show? Email me and we can make arrangements.

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:32:41
From: "Robert N. Whitney" rwhitney@supernet.com
Subject: os : "hell on earth"

Just ran across a copy of the "Hellraiser III" soundtrack and was pretty sure I didn't have of copy of it so I bought it just for the Motorhead "Hell On Earth" track. Well as soon as I punched in track 10 and started to listen to this song I knew I had heard it and now remembered why I didn't have a copy of this soundtrack. This has to be the worst song Motorhead has ever recorded! Not one redeeming quality. Usually Lemmy's vocals can save any song for me but what a piece of junk. Enough said boys and girls.

Best wishes,
Lancaster, PA

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:43:45
From: "Robert N. Whitney" rwhitney@supernet.com
Subject: os : "on the road with motorhead"

Really enjoyed your "We Are The Road Crew" travel log. What a deal it must have been to travel with that bunch. I had always seen Tim in allot of pictures with the band and was always wondering who the hell is this guy that he always gets his picture taken with Motorhead but looks like he's my uncle. Very well written, I don't know how you get the time, and a great inside look of the workings of a traveling band. I could not believe that things were still such a struggle to get a concert together, equipment, sound, lighting, the BAND!, as it was twenty years ago when I played bass. Sadly I have to admit that at the time I played bass Gary Thain of Uriah Heep was my idol. Long time ago in a galaxy far away.
Best wishes,
Lancaster, PA
MHB #1852

**Ace: Thanks for the kind words... it was truly one of the greatest times of my life!


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